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  • 06-04-2007 11:45 AM

    • ANNIEG
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    Dont Negect the Assembly of Believers

      
    Ephesians 4:16 (Amplified Bible) 
       For because of Him the whole body (the church, in all its various parts), closely joined and firmly knit together by the joints and ligaments with which it is supplied, when each part (with power adapted to its need) is working properly (in all its functions),grows to full maturity, building itself up in love.
     
    We need to walk in the greatest commandment; the commandment of love. Through this commandment of love we build each other up and it gives energy to our faith. I have seen people get offended quit going to church and go off on their own or they church hop and get offended there. Where is the love? Love forgives an offense, it's not easily offended, not selfish, wanting it's own way. Love believes the best of every person.

    Hebrews 10:25 (Amplified Bible)
       Not forsaking or neglecting to assemble together [as believers], as is the habit of some people, but admonishing (warning, urging, and encouraging) one another, and all the more faithfully as you see the day approaching
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    It's important for us to be connected to a local body of believers. It is through being joined together with a  local church we grow. Not a church that is dead but has the Life and Spirit of God moving in it. 
     
    Knowing how important it is to have a church home, my question is what church do you attend?? Since November of 2002 I have been attending a local Rhema Bible Church before that we attended a local Assembly of God church for over 20 years. 
     
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  • 06-05-2007 10:42 AM In reply to

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    ANNIEG:
     Not forsaking or neglecting to assemble together [as believers], as is the habit of some people, but admonishing (warning, urging, and encouraging) one another, and all the more faithfully as you see the day approaching. 
    Amen me too attended an assembly of God for 11 years and now attend a rhema church since 2005.
    Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.......if he does not he will surely die of starvation
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  • 07-23-2007 5:40 PM In reply to

    • Shasta
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    Re: Dont Negect the Assembly of Believers

    Hi AnnieG!  We attend A/G but I think we would attend a WOF church or A Rhema pastored church if one were near enough.
    Shasta
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  • 08-22-2007 4:30 PM In reply to

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    Are we really required according to Gods word to faithfully attend a 'Church'?
     
    I hold no personal grudges against any established denominational church group,
    or against any non denominational church group, BUT I must in all humility profess my
    pwersonal disagreement with the common 'Church' theory that God has commanded us
    to always remnain faithful as members and participants of a local denominational or non
    denominational 'Church' gathering of believers.
     
    The exact wording states that we ought not forsake the assembling of ourselves together.
     
    This could mean that we could gather together as an assembly of like minded believers
    in the home of another like minded believer.
     
    My wife and I have not been members of a church for almost three years now, no we have
    not backslidden, we still gather together with other like minded believers in the home of some
    very faithfully committed Christian friends.
     
    We have experienced MORE of the presence of God, and more of the power of God in these simple
    little home gatherings than we did at the Brownsville Revival in Penscola Florida, or any other 'Church'
    revival, campmeeting or common weekly service!
     
    I'm not saying it's wrong to be a member of an organized church, but I am saying you don't have to
    be to experience a powerful visitation from God!
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  • 08-23-2007 1:16 PM In reply to

    • steveb
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    Re: Dont Negect the Assembly of Believers

    This is a great point to. That we need a local church to belong to.With out it all we do is wither and die on the vine. I know in my family and my case if we don't make it to church our week is very slow and dingy,things just don't go right. We belong to a large church in the twin citys area and if it weren't for my brothers in the lord praying I could have lost everything that god has given to me.prayers by them and to alowe the workings of  holy spirt to work in my life. It was hard to be obedant and submisave to the spirt. This never would have happend in our old church. My wife and I have been saved sence the year 2000. We both rased catholic.Thay never taoght salvathion though the blood of christ.

    When we walked in the church we are in now. Wow we new we where home. 
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  • 08-23-2007 1:55 PM In reply to

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    I'll admit that some have no problem being a part of a large gathering
    of like minded believers in an organized church setting, but my wife
    and I found that in too many cases even SOME Christian people just
    can't be trusted.
     
    Yes there are indeed good and faithful Christians, and there are some
    hypocrites in the mix also, whether it be in a large group, or a small group,
    but in either case the Bible still does not tell us that the assembling of ourselves
    together is that it must be in an organized denominational or non denominational
    church.
     
    Remember the FIRST gatherings were in the homes of believers.......
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  • 08-23-2007 3:09 PM In reply to

    • Bisnut
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    Re: Dont Negect the Assembly of Believers

    DefendingWordofFaith,

    I am inclined to agree with you on this one, at least partially. If you look back to the young Christian church in Acts, you will see the new believers often met in each other's homes, fellowshipped intimately with one another, and often went out and proclaimed the Gospel together. Compare that with your typical feel-good, bless me Evangelical church of today, and you'll see we're way off the mark when compared with the early church.

    Of course there are good, big churches...Timothy pastored a large influential church. It all comes down to this: is it inward focused (a religious "bless me" club), or is it outward focused? I believe many American churches have become big business and very secular in their self-centered teachings--more focused on moving product than on preaching the Gospel.

    —Bisnut
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  • 08-23-2007 5:02 PM In reply to

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    Bisnut:
    more focused on moving product than on preaching the Gospel.
     
    THAT is one of my biggest problems with a few of the churches in our area!
     
    Over the past three years my wife and I Have attended spexcial services and some
    regular services at a few of the local churches and at almost 95% of these churhces
    the focus was directed more toward the gathering in of tithes and offerings and promoting
    merchandise than the word, and out of all of these places I only heard ONE message
    on the cross of Christ!
     
    Sad.....
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  • 08-23-2007 8:43 PM In reply to

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    No, I don't believe it's a sin to not be a member of an organized church body, but as THE church, we are the body of Christ.  Being a body, the church is made up of different parts that all have a role to play in the big picture.  Some of us are preachers, and some are teachers, and others are gifted to be a church secretary or even a janitor.  The point is, we all have a role and a purpose in the body of Christ.  We have to be fed the Word of God yes, and that can be done in a group setting of any kind.  Then comes ministry, which we do everytime we walk out into the world on a daily basis.  But, then there's our duty to the body of Christ itself.  If my bladder decided one day it didn't like my kidneys too much and decided to leave and go do it's own thing, I would be in pretty shape, eh?  The same goes for the Body of Christ.
     
    and I know exactly how you feel, Defending, about how some churches conduct things and get their priorities mixed up.  What we have to remember is that the Word tells us not to place our faith in man.  People will fail and disappoint us, and make us just downright furious sometimes.  All we can do is pray for those people and continue to do our best by contributing our own gifts to the greater good.
     
    As far as your own church situation goes, I can't tell you what to do except just keep trying to find a church to get involved with, because you never know how your contribution might bless even ONE person in any church at any time.  I was studying the early chapters of Revelations today, and saw exactly the pattern of behavior your referring to in some of the churches Jesus had John write to.  But, the Word mentions that even in the midst of those churches where there were problems and disorder, there were those who remained faithful despite what the others were doing.  The point here is that there are no perfect churches.  Every church has its issues, but we as individuals are responsible for our own behavior, so not everyone in a mege-commercialized church is going to be greedy and prideful.  Some of them are just faithful, churchgoing folks who are contributing their gifts and talents to the body of Christ.
    No stumbling pilgrim in the Dark, the road to Zion's in your heart.
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  • 08-23-2007 8:52 PM In reply to

    • Bisnut
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    Re: Dont Negect the Assembly of Believers

     Well said, Michael.

    —Bisnut
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  • 08-23-2007 9:09 PM In reply to

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    And to respond to the original post here, I have been part of an Asembly of God church my whole life (Almost 20 years).
    I've actually never heard of a Rhema church before.  Is it similar?
     


    Excuse my ignorance of what a Rhema church is, LOL. I'm still pretty young and don't have a wealth of knwoledge about other denominations outside my own.
    No stumbling pilgrim in the Dark, the road to Zion's in your heart.
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  • 08-23-2007 11:19 PM In reply to

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    Michael_Coty:
    No, I don't believe it's a sin to not be a member of an organized church body, but as THE church, we are the body of Christ.  Being a body, the church is made up of different parts that all have a role to play in the big picture.  Some of us are preachers, and some are teachers, and others are gifted to be a church secretary or even a janitor.  The point is, we all have a role and a purpose in the body of Christ.  We have to be fed the Word of God yes, and that can be done in a group setting of any kind.  Then comes ministry, which we do everytime we walk out into the world on a daily basis.  But, then there's our duty to the body of Christ itself.  If my bladder decided one day it didn't like my kidneys too much and decided to leave and go do it's own thing, I would be in pretty shape, eh?  The same goes for the Body of Christ.
     
    and I know exactly how you feel, Defending, about how some churches conduct things and get their priorities mixed up.  What we have to remember is that the Word tells us not to place our faith in man.  People will fail and disappoint us, and make us just downright furious sometimes.  All we can do is pray for those people and continue to do our best by contributing our own gifts to the greater good.
     
    As far as your own church situation goes, I can't tell you what to do except just keep trying to find a church to get involved with, because you never know how your contribution might bless even ONE person in any church at any time.  I was studying the early chapters of Revelations today, and saw exactly the pattern of behavior your referring to in some of the churches Jesus had John write to.  But, the Word mentions that even in the midst of those churches where there were problems and disorder, there were those who remained faithful despite what the others were doing.  The point here is that there are no perfect churches.  Every church has its issues, but we as individuals are responsible for our own behavior, so not everyone in a mege-commercialized church is going to be greedy and prideful.  Some of them are just faithful, churchgoing folks who are contributing their gifts and talents to the body of Christ.
     
    Please don't get offended at what I am about to say, but I feel very strongly that you are STILL telling me that I am wrong for NOT being a member of an organized denominational or non denominational church gathering and that is NOT true.
     
    Everything you have said is in one sense or another correct but God never once said that we are required to be members of any
    church he said that we ought not forsake the assembling of ourselves together, MAN has made too many good people feel like
    dirt becuase they don't go to THEIR church, using that scripture to try to make that person feel guilty.
     
    Every example you mentioned I can do just as good if not VERY much better in a small informal home gathering of like minded
    Christian believers as I could in a large, or even small denominational or non denominational organized church.
     
    Why? Because 99.9% of the time God is given greater fredom to BE God in a small home gathering than he is in the large organized church, in the small home gathering God is allowed sufficient time to work, in the organized church God has a limitted amount of time during which he is allowed to work.
     
    No I will nenevr again be a part of any organized church and I feel no guilt over it, and I am very confident God is not in anyway displeased with me for NOT being and not wanting to be a part of an organized denominational, or non denominational church.
     
    BTW I'm still a very vital part of Christ's body whether I attend the organized church or I don't........
     
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  • 08-24-2007 4:12 AM In reply to

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    Okay, so this doesn't surprise me about you.  Everything I read from you in these forums turns out the same way where one person says something that rubs you the wrong way and you jump at them, put words in their mouth, and then get angry when they tell you that you're doing it.
     
    I NEVER EVER EVER said that it was wrong for you to not be a member of a church.  The fact that you are not a member of a church is not the problem here.  The wall that you have built up in your heart against organized churches is, however.  And for you to say that you will NEVER be a part of a church again is what I'm talking about, not because of the church issue itself, but because you have hardened yourself so that you say you NEVER will.  What if God spoke to you about a specific church and told you HE wanted you there?
     
    I don't know what bad experiences you have had in your past to poison your view of churches so intensely, but I pray that you give that over to God and open yourself up a little.
     
    And yes, you ARE a vital member of the Body of Christ.  My point was that you don't know how someone's life might be touched merely by you giving up your own carnal distaste for churches and contributing your gifts to maintaining  the Body itself.
    No stumbling pilgrim in the Dark, the road to Zion's in your heart.
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  • 08-24-2007 4:13 AM In reply to

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    No, I'm not offended, but I am disturbed at your insecurities about churches and the limitations your putting on yourself with your judgement of organized churches.

    No stumbling pilgrim in the Dark, the road to Zion's in your heart.
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  • 08-24-2007 9:01 AM In reply to

    • Dee Price
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    Re: Dont Negect the Assembly of Believers

    Right now, I attend World Changers Church New York, which was started by Creflo Dollar.  However, he is focusing now, both in Atlanta and in New York on training people with the congregation of both church's to start cell groups within their homes.  Some of the greatest manifestations of the power of God now a days are happening within these small groups that are meeting within the homes of people.  Pastor Cho has what I believe is the largest church on record in Seoul, and they thrive from small cells.   Organized or not organized, it should not matter as long as we are following  the Word of God, teaching the word of God with simplicity so that those who are hearing can get a clear understanding of how to walk in the Word of God and defeat the devil, allowing that Word to break the bondages of our enemy and our flesh.

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