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What is the "covering" many ministries refer to in sending or commissioning?

Last post 11-06-2007 1:43 AM by KatiRose4Him. 5 replies.
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  • 11-02-2007 8:24 PM

    What is the "covering" many ministries refer to in sending or commissioning?

    I've also heard missionaries refer to "submitting" to a local pastor to secure "covering" upon arriving in a foreign (to US) nation before ministering.  What is the scriptural teaching about this?  Many thanks.
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  • 11-02-2007 8:47 PM In reply to

    Re: What is the "covering" many ministries refer to in sending or commissioning?

    If you look at Acts 13 and 14 you see the Apostle Paul being "sent" as a missionary...  It is scriptural to have a Covering... a pastor or Apostle to be accountable to....  I believe its God's way of ministry and being sent...
    there is a saying... "Some are anointed and "sent" others bought a microphone and "went"
     
    the message is that we need to wait on the Lord to send us through His Ordained Authority - the church leaders... and not produce a work of the flesh - an ishmael and try to make things happen impatiently...
    we need to give birth to an Isaac ministry not an Ishmael ministry...
     
    But The Apostle Paul is a Great example...
     
     I hope this helps
    Doc
    Doctor J
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  • 11-04-2007 2:55 AM In reply to

    Re: What is the "covering" many ministries refer to in sending or commissioning?

    A good book to read on this is "Undercover" by John Bevere.

    Staying under a church covering keeps some from getting off track and out into strange doctrines and policies. It keeps the leaders submitted to other leaders - and all accountable to God through each other.

    "But aren't we all accountable to God?" YES! And as we read the Word we can see that God used people to keep other people accountable. Just read Paul's letters... God told him to tell them... etc...

    I feel safe and protected under a healthy covering.
     
    KR
    Kati Rose
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  • 11-04-2007 4:22 PM In reply to

    Re: What is the "covering" many ministries refer to in sending or commissioning?

    Thanks, KR, I'll look for the book, and DJ.

    I am hoping someone can give me some scripture texts about this.  I'm not sure about the word "covering" in New Testament scripture.  Nor do I really understand the concept as used in your two replies.  I think I'm wanting to accept what you both are saying, but not really grasping it.

    I just want to FIRST understand what the scripture teaches, and then follow that.  Can you show me what the scripture teaches?  Some references, texts, or whatever?  Many thank and cheers in Jesus.

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  • 11-06-2007 1:22 AM In reply to

    Re: What is the "covering" many ministries refer to in sending or commissioning?

    Thank you, Doc.

    This is what I think I see in Acts 12 -14 (you suggested 13-14):

    1.)  In Acts 12, Peter has an exciting and effective Jerusalem ministry.  Though disciplined by the state, he is released and miraculously returns to the congregation.  Apparently there are several "ministers" in the local area.  This is a contextual antecedent.   Was he *sent?*

    2.)  In Acts 13, since there were several prophets and teachers (this prior to the wider circulation of the Pauline doctrinal formulation regarding prophets and teachers later in his epistles to other (non-Jerusalem) newly established *Gentile?* congregations), and since they knew among themselves who they were, it should be no surprise that during fasting and prayer, they would agree on what to do with a couple of them, at least one of which had already indicated his mission. 

    They knew Paul's story of conversion and commissioning by Jesus, and he was not there for the purpose of remaining in Jerusalem, and they all knew that his ministry was to the Gentiles not in Jerusalem.  They agreed (apparently unanimously) to cooperate in sending Paul and Barnabas where they (Paul and Barnabas) knew they should be going.

    "Set apart" includes the idea of releasing them from any limiting responsibilities in Jerusalem in order to *send* them.  v13: apoluo means to free fully, literally to relieve, release, dismiss.  And so under those *conditions,* they were "sent."

    There is as much a *test* on the members of the sending congregation as there is upon Paul or upon Barnabas.

    3.)  It is not as if Paul and Barnabas were told what to do and where to go, and then sent in order to do what they were told to do where they were sent to do it.  Although some seem to *read* this in the text, I don't find it.

    4.)  No mention is made of "covering" at all.  Where does that idea come from?  Is it extra-textual? 

    5.)  In 13.5 it is distinctly indicated they were sent forth by the Holy Spirit; it does not say they were sent forth by the congregation or by any leaders.  To recapitulate then, it would appear that virtually everyone knew what was going to take place, and clearly it may have been no surprise or *news* at all that Paul and Barnabas anticipated leaving, but in fact many were looking forward to this commissioning and sending.  So there came a moment to "officiate" the already clearly indicated wish of the Holy Spirit.

    6.)  Prior (in time) to this Acts account of this mission, we understand Paul's awareness that he was to minister to Gentiles elsewhere than in Jerusalem.  It is clear he did not go to Jerusalem to get permission, nor to receive a commission, nor to be filled with the Holy Spirit, nor to seek any favor.  He went to identify, to minister, to assist, to assure, and to give notice.  They responded graciously, together they received his instructional ministry, they enjoyed fellowship, they agreed *in the Spirit* as to his calling, doctrine, and equipping and readiness to minister, and finally in his (their) commissioning.  Similarly, we understand the old man's hearing of the Holy Spirit that this man Saul would suffer and serve Jesus, probably not in Jerusalem nor among only Jews.

    7.)  So there was agreement among them all about the words of Jesus, the ministry of the Spirit in each and among them in community of faith, and in actions supporting what was first identified to Paul, then to the old man, then to the others in the Jerusalem congregation, and they were in agreement.  So they acted in concert.

    8.)  Subsequently Paul returned with *Gentile* offerings for the Jerusalem poor saints and an accounting of the ministry of the Holy Spirit and the effectiveness of the logos and the rhema among the Gentiles who heartily supported and suffered for their new cause.  Paul then left Jerusalem again, for further Gentile *road trips.*

    My question is about how to support any claim regarding *covering* that is clearly extraneous to the text?  And what would be the motive for such a claim? 

    It would seem that some question of *power* or *authority* is intended or implied in claims regarding "covering."  It just does not usually seem simply to be a *common practice* issue on the part of the people making the claim.  There seems to be some interest in accountability needing to have scriptural or doctrinal antecedence or precedence.  Perhaps fear of losing control?  That would account for the urgency I seem to read and hear in some conversations. 

    And of course it's very easy to *legislate from convenience,* due to results of cases of distortion and error in practice.  And of course, it's also possible to assert "ostensive definition" claims requiring acceptable standards of performance.  Let's just call it that, if that's what it is.  Organizational requirements (alleged) seem to come out that way... we have these rules for the good of everyone.  OK, well let's just say that.  How does this get to be *scriptural covering?*  Prudence?  Fine.  Let's be prudent.  But why "contractualize" performance?  To install built-in quality control?   To get ahead of the curve?

    Worse would be a claim conditioning the apparent success of the Acts 13 ministries of Paul and Barnabas pro forma.  They were successful BECAUSE they did what we required.  And we are right, QED.  Ironically, thinking something perhaps like, "The Holy Spirit is surely very wise."

    I am looking for a clear textual admonition.  Failing that, I am concerned about the cases in which congregations have mistakenly failed to support and recognize the ones God is calling into activities away from the congregation, especially if they are geographically distant.  Is there's perhaps a set of health and spirituality factors to address?  I want to learn more about this, too.

    Of course the *other side* has an interest in prudent practice.  Even though no covering is considered.  Being aware of one's call should not be an extreme problem, should it?  Prudent practice need not be predicated on picturesque flourishes of emotional discourse.


    There's more... enough for now.  Blessings and cheers.


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  • 11-06-2007 1:43 AM In reply to

    Re: What is the "covering" many ministries refer to in sending or commissioning?

    This is a gret discussion... keep it going... I will jump in when I can. I just got real busy with home projects, home schooling the kids, and some admin stuff for our small group.
     
    Sorry I can't post into this now... See you as soon as I can!
     
    KR
    Kati Rose
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